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financial planning 101.
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it's brian preston the money guy
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brian i am super excited about today's
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show because this allows us to do a
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little bit of flexing uh one of the
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things that we have to do when
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we go to financial planner school right
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when you become a financial advisor when
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you study for the exams is you have to
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learn
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about some
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basics of financial planning right we
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learned it in the context of the
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financial planning pyramid right like
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how the different parts of financial
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planning stack on one another was you
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and i were talking we said you know it's
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sort of different
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how you approach the pyramid and the
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basics and the thought process around
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each of those subject matters
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at each age and stage so why don't we
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kind of run through what we dubbed
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financial planning 101
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at each age and stage and range of life
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but i don't know why when you said
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financial planning school i had visions
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of the north pole with tim allen as the
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santa claus and we're running around
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maybe it was a buddy the elf we're doing
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that with tim allen i've like brought
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every christmas movie out there
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together for its own mashup um i i think
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that what i like about this show is that
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there's so much of financial twitter
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um because that's what that's the spaces
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i'm hanging out where they will give
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really good simple information like
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spend less than you make
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control debt automate your investments
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you know every bit of that is
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foundational knowledge
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but i think it auto we're financial
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mutants we need to go beyond that and
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that's what i like is that how do we go
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beyond basic how do we get you guys with
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the right
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mutant mindset to really take it to the
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next level yep love it so let's let's
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jump right in let's go into the 20s i
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mean i want to talk about building that
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base up
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uh there's a lot going on in this decade
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because you've got to build the
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foundational knowledge this is i know
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when i graduated college
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that's when i discovered that
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millionaire next door book the wealthy
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barber and it just lit a fire in my
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brain on on starting to say but there is
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so much i i worry about
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anybody who's in their 20s now is
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because it is also the greatest time to
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be alive to be an investor to be a saver
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but it's also the scariest in the fact
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that there's just so much information
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how do you how do you kind of curate it
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and bring it back
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um and and there's also some emotional
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stuff that's just to say not only is
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there this like vat of information about
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it i know when uh i hear this all the
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time from young folks or folks that are
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just graduating i didn't learn personal
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finance i didn't have that class in
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college didn't have that class in school
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so there's tons of information tons of
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knowledge to be had but there are so
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many distractions for those in the 20s
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this is our first i mean i guess college
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was our first like taste of freedom but
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this is our first like taste of like
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real adulthood adult adulthood and
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there's a lot of things that can like
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get us off track and send us in
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different directions
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so we think if you have some of this
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foundational knowledge built it can help
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keep you in line so let's let's talk
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about this how do we do it and i like i
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want you if you're a 20-something how do
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you automate this process let's make it
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automatic for the people let's talk
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about the financial planning pyramid so
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if we think about this pyramid and sort
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of the base that we have to think
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through number one is cash flow right
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money coming in money going out and so
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when it comes to things to think about
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in your 20s number one is obviously very
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basic
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spend less than you make learn how to
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live on
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less than the income that you have
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coming in if you can just figure out
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that one thing we call it deferred
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gratification we need to figure out that
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one thing you're already going to put
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yourself worlds ahead of your peers yeah
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and think about it in terms of don't a
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lot of people i think they just wait to
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see what's left over at the end of the
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month
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no you need to be very proactive in your
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cash flow planning to where you're
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actually paying yourself first that's
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back to that automatic wealth creation
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by going ahead and creating a system
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dollar cost average every month have
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money going into your investments so
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that you don't let this just whatever is
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left over is what i invest that's not
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gonna work number two and you hear us
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preach this one all the time understand
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the dangers of debt now we are not here
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at the money guy show anti-debt or
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against all debt but we do recognize
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that it is a tool that can be incredibly
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useful in your financial toolbox tool
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box but it can also be incredibly
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dangerous and i worry that a lot of
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folks in their 20s use it carelessly and
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use it haphazardly well but i want to be
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careful because um you know you look at
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uga football
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there's a danger there's a danger of
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some of the coaches when you look back
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through the history they were known as
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players coaches meaning they didn't
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squeeze to get the they were too
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friendly with their with their players
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they didn't get the best out of
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everybody you kind of want to go with
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that field general where you know you
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like your coach but you want to make
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sure that you got a little bit of fear
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there and that's why i do think that at
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this stage if you're not scared of your
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debt that's why we always talk about
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treat it like it's a chainsaw if you're
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using debt and you're not scared you're
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probably using it wrong and that falls
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on the credit cards because i think in
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your 20s
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that is the big big risk is because you
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look at this as a bridge i'll just take
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the credit card debt it will bridge me
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until i make more money and then i'll
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pay myself back the problem is no it's a
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siren song you'll get trapped you'll get
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behind and you'll look back in that one
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bad mistake if you can't pay it off
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monthly don't even use it and this one
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this last one i think in today's society
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in
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today's culture
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this is one that's interesting spend
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what is left after saving you said this
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brian automate your savings learn how to
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do that early and then live on the cheap
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i think the 20s is probably the only
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time in your life where it's okay
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to live incredibly cheaply to really
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pinch pennies to really i mean i i don't
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mind this is not the greatest like
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health thing but youthful cover lines
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when i was in my 20s like i don't know
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that i had the best diet i was going to
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like publix and i was buying the you
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know the two for one cereals and i was
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eating that for a lot of meals i'm not
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recommending that as like your nutrition
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plan but man it was pretty awesome
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having those extra dollars to be able to
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put into my roth ira i'd like to say
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we're not recommending captain crunch
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every meal that is definitely not a
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recipe honey nut cheerios that's the
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healthy one but i do want you to
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bedazzle the basics there's no reason
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that you can't still enjoy your life but
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do it in a very cost effective way and
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the reason we're so
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focused on the discipline the deferred
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gratification is because there's
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exponential echoes meaning that whatever
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you do in your 20s
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will just have tremendous exponential
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growth opportunities in the long term so
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it is if your car payment is 250 a month
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versus 700 a month and you get to take
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that difference and actually throw it
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into investments i'm telling you your 50
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year old self will give you the
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sloppiest hug you've ever seen because
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they'll be so happy
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that they'll leave you know tear stains
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on you as as you back away from the hug
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but it is one of those things focus on
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that great big beautiful tomorrow it
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doesn't happen without taking small
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little steps while you're in your 20s
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and bo this leads to i want to talk
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about risk management because we're
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talking about how to get the cash flow
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right but we do have to make sure that a
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little thing that should be a setback
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doesn't throw you into desperation and
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chaos that's exactly right if you've
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been listening to the show for any
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amount of time you know that we love the
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financial order of operations it's a
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nine step tried and true process
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to get you through the financial
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decisions you have to make well step
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number one in the foo
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is to have your deductibles covered that
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means your health insurance deductible
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your auto deductible your home
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deductible so that if something happens
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if that unknown tuesday event takes
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place you at least have money to keep
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yourself out of the ditch and you may
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say oh well that doesn't seem like a big
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hurdle that doesn't seem like a huge
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threshold to get over
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we know that right now
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56 of americans have less than a
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thousand dollars in savings i mean if
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some uh-oh came along they couldn't come
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up with a thousand bucks without going
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into debt so this shows us that if all
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you have done is covered your
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deductibles you are likely doing better
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than 56 of the other folks in this
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country historically this number is
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close to 60 we look at this number every
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year and i think the only reason it's at
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56
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is probably post pandemic there was um
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you know money that it had been paid out
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and so forth i wouldn't be shocked to
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see this number go right back to 60
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don't be don't be that i mean that's a
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step one of financial abundance when we
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go through our levels of wealth is just
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having enough money to where you can
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cover the deductibles covered so you
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guys and by the way i feel like it's
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cruel if we don't talk if we talk about
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the foo and we don't say
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moneyguy.com resources if you two want
8:43
to download what the nine steps are if
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you want to go to learn.moneyguy.com we
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actually have a deeper dive course that
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you can go check out but another thing
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when you're in your 20s you're healthy
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yep so a lot of people i think you feel
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bulletproof
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health insurance is expensive it's
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boring a lot of 20 year olds don't even
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feel like they need it but we want
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people to have health insurance i get so
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sad when i see someone say hey you know
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i'm about to get 26 i've been on mom and
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dad's health insurance but i'm about to
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age out of that
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uh and you know i'm just i don't
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that extra 200 a month 300 whatever it
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is i'm just going to avoid i don't go to
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the doctor i don't need it the problem
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is the reason that we have insurance is
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to cover those things that we don't know
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those o's that we're not prepared for
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you don't want to be in this situation
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when you're 27 28 29 years old where you
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get in that car accident or you have
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that accident at the gym or whatever the
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thing is that puts you in the hospital
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and you are literally
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flying naked because you have no
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coverage don't do that make sure you
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have the right types of insurance in
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place well we also know a lot of
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bankruptcies are caused by absolutely
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medical type things that happen and you
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don't want to have a an oopsy or a bad
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thing just like you describe
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really side rail you to where even if
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you file bankruptcy you're still it's
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going to take
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close to a decade seven to ten years to
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get back to to ground zero where you
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even have the ability to do normal
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things like mortgages and so forth
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it's just not worth the risk have health
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insurance we also listed have property
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insurance um what we're talking about
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here a lot of you probably do rent i
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mean and look even though you're not in
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charge of the grounds
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you are in charge of everything that's
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inside the wall so renters insurance
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should not even be overlooked if you're
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in your 20s
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it's too cheap to protect yourself from
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the big oopsies that totally derail and
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side rail your financial life and then
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the other thing in your 20s you're going
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to be thinking about is you want to be
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building your emergency reserves again
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you might not fully have step number
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four of the foo maxed out you might not
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have that full three to six but you
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ought to be working towards that once
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you've got the deductibles covered then
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you want to make sure that you have
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somewhere between three to six months of
10:56
your living expenses in cash on the
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sidelines again in case something
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happens job loss medical emergency
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whatever you can cover those unknown
11:05
circumstances that might happen so we've
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kind of covered cash flow we've covered
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risk management let's talk about how the
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the sexy stuff that actually creates
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wealth and that's investing putting that
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army of dollar bills to work here's the
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first thing i need 20 somethings to know
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you recognize you're a billionaire of
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time yep i mean that is the biggest part
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when i talk about the three components
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of wealth creation we have discipline
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that's your focus that's that deferred
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gratification that creates margin um
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that allows you to invest money you know
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cash flow is always needed and then that
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third component is the most important
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component which is time and since you
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when you're in your 20s you are a
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billionaire of seconds and minutes it is
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crazy for you not to maximize the
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exponential growth opportunity and this
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is just how powerful that time can be
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you've heard us say it all the time on
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every show that we have brian keeps a
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koozie right there that says this one
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dollar can turn into 88 there's this
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concept that for someone who's 20 and
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they put one dollar to work over the 21
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for the beer drink if you're a beer
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drinker you've got to be 21 retire at 66
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but if you're just a 20 year old working
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one dollar can turn into 88
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by the time that you get to age 65. at
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the early parts of your career your
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dollars are more powerful than they will
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be at any other time in your working
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life so the sooner you can figure this
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out the earlier you can start saving
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saving
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the better off you will be if you want
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to know what your multiplier is based on
12:35
your age go to moneyguy.com resource so
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we have this wealth multiplier you can
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see it on the screen and it shows that
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at 20 it's 88 but by the time you get to
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25 it drops down to 44. still super
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powerful but the earlier you figured out
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the better off you will be for the long
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term yeah a lot of people if you're
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brand new because look you all wonder we
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cover these concepts 50 of you are brand
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new to the money guy channel and i want
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to tell you you're saying how tell me
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how do i do this let's go get me this
13:02
type of multiplier in the beginning
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there's nothing wrong with index target
13:07
retirement funds where you basically
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have to answer two questions how much
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can i save when do i need it they will
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do all the heavy lifting of the asset
13:15
allocation dealing you know get being
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very aggressive while you're young
13:19
getting more conservative as you're
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older now look you will outgrow this at
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some point but it's that great big
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beautiful tomorrow moment where you're
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super successful you need a financial
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planner but in the beginning an index
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target retirement fund that doesn't have
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commissions and the three biggest
13:34
providers are like the vanguards the
13:36
fidelity investments the charles
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schwab's they're going to be able to
13:40
hook you up focus on how much you can
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save more than where the money goes
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because savings rate is so much more
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important than the the mix of things
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when you're starting out all right so
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now as we're working up in the pyramid
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we get to more complex items and one of
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the items that gets a little more
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complex is tax planning
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it's so funny with where i sit right now
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i look back to my 20 year old self and
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i'm kind of envious of what tax planning
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was like for me back then i used to
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think and you said this too brian man i
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can't wait till it's complicated i can't
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wait till i have k1s and schedule cs and
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schedules and all these different things
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in your 20s don't try to make your taxes
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any more complicated than they have to
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be i miss the time brian when i could
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take on like april the 14th i could
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spend about 20 minutes going through my
14:26
tax return and just get it done very
14:28
very quickly that will change so don't
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try to complicate your tax life it's
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okay early on if it's fairly simple yeah
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i mean i think for most people this is
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when you're in your 20s more than likely
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you're doing your taxes in the
14:42
februaries because you're just taking
14:44
your w-2 you want to get that you want
14:46
to get that
14:47
money you know coming in
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so so yeah don't go chasing complex it
14:51
will find you with further success it
14:55
will come
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you can use tools like turbo tax we even
14:59
threw out um the the referral because i
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know what you volunteered with uga
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um and this is everywhere vita is a
15:07
not-for-profit organization that helps
15:09
people in the community prepare their
15:10
taxes we remember we even have um some
15:13
clients that volunteer that is their
15:15
retirement as they retire they they
15:17
retire into this is one of their
15:19
community involvement things i think
15:21
that's outstanding because we all know
15:22
financial mutants get this stuff if
15:24
you're curious and it's a free service
15:25
it's vol volunteer income tax assistance
15:28
you can go look up vita it's a really
15:30
really great program not a bad thing to
15:33
think about if you have a very simple
15:35
tax situation all right well then we
15:37
have estate planning now i don't know
15:38
about you brian in my 20s estate
15:40
planning was not something that was like
15:41
top of mind i just wasn't i wasn't
15:43
thinking about my mortality there and i
15:45
wasn't thinking there really there was a
15:47
lot of work for me to do there so one of
15:50
the things we said that just sort of a
15:51
basic thing is make sure beneficiaries
15:53
are updated on your account so if you
15:54
have a roth ira make sure you have a
15:57
beneficiary added to that if you have
15:58
your 401k that you are contributing to
16:01
make sure that you have beneficiaries
16:03
listed on that account so that in the
16:05
unbelievable event that something did
16:06
happen to you your assets would pass to
16:08
the people that you want your assets to
16:10
pass um estate planning if you have
16:12
because there are com you know things
16:14
that complicate life you know obviously
16:15
if you have children and other things
16:17
make sure
16:18
your estate plan you still would
16:19
probably want a will or something we had
16:21
a whole discussion is this a napkin
16:23
estate plan is this bowler plate i think
16:26
in the beginning the biggest thing is
16:28
make sure those big risks like hey who's
16:31
going to take care of the kids and you
16:33
know and how my assets are going to pass
16:35
just make sure you are giving a little
16:37
thought to that it's probably not going
16:38
to be super complex in your 20s but it
16:40
still deserves
16:43
your attention so that no mistakes are
16:45
made just in case all right brian so we
16:46
talked about the 20s the 20s is this
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decade uh where we are building the base
16:51
we're doing our foundational knowledge
16:53
well then we get into our thirties and
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we no matter how many times we try to
16:57
change the name of this we don't change
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you i don't know why you try
17:01
coming up with creative things but this
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is so true it it is in fact and i'm
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living this so very truly
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30s is the messy middle it's what this
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is this is like you throw the arrow you
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throw the dart and it hits the bullseye
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and now you're upset that it's on the
17:16
left side of the bull's eye versus i
17:18
mean when we call it the messy middle i
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think that this is actually comforting
17:22
because i think it is hopefully
17:24
every one of you who are in your 30s and
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you're like man i made it through my 20s
17:29
i'm in my 30s i thought this would be
17:31
feeling easier right now but it's just
17:33
not because you're super busy at work
17:35
you know if you got a significant other
17:37
you're trying to figure out the whole
17:38
family thing and then add on there this
17:40
whole craziness with the real estate
17:42
market and that first home purchase
17:45
it is perfectly okay that this is called
17:47
the messy middle because i think that
17:48
that should hopefully
17:50
give you some comfort that this is
17:52
you're in the right season of life all
17:55
right so let's talk about the financial
17:57
planning pyramids or the basics in your
17:58
30s now it's likely that your cash flow
18:01
has changed you're likely making more
18:03
money
18:04
whether it be through wages income side
18:07
hustles bonuses than you did in your 20s
18:10
so one of the things you want to make
18:12
sure you do is that your savings rate
18:14
follows suit i see this all the time
18:15
with my friends brian i'm like hey start
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saving in your 20s 500 a month and max
18:20
out that roth ira and they start doing
18:22
it well they get some promotions and
18:23
their job search circumstances change
18:26
and their 30s i'm like hey man how are
18:27
you doing oh roth is doing great still
18:29
doing 500 a month and i'm like no dude
18:32
you got to like as your income goes up
18:34
so too does the amount that you are
18:36
saving that's why we talk about that 25
18:39
savings rate that you ought to be
18:40
shooting for if your income increases so
18:43
too should the dollars that are going
18:45
into your army of dollar bills yeah i
18:47
mean it's a big part i have a lot of
18:49
grace for my 20-somethings because i
18:51
know you come from you know pretty much
18:54
zero and you're building this thing up
18:55
so to say 25 of your gross income is
18:58
hard in your 20s in your 30s you've got
19:00
to be reaching completion on completion
19:03
on reaching that goal um and this a big
19:05
part of this lifestyle creep
19:08
and this is the thing look you make a
19:10
mistake on we hear about the latte
19:12
factor and all these things where people
19:14
are buying coffee that's not really what
19:16
we're seeing the problems the problems
19:18
we see for 30-somethings is how big is
19:20
that car and that car payment how big is
19:22
your mortgage and that mortgage payment
19:24
because instead of hundred dollars a
19:26
month mistakes here we see thousands of
19:28
dollars a month of mistakes that just
19:30
are being spent on these on the cost of
19:33
just staying alive and looking good
19:36
versus building that great big beautiful
19:38
tomorrow in the future yeah there's some
19:39
really interesting statistics that
19:41
daniel pulled for this on us we we know
19:42
that right now the average age of a
19:45
first time home buyer is 34 years old
19:48
that's kind of remarkable because
19:50
in our experience both of us bought our
19:51
first home before age 34. what i think
19:55
is really even more remarkable i think
19:56
it's probably one of the reasons that
19:58
this age has increased over time
20:01
is that the median home price in this
20:02
country right now is 408
20:06
dollars that is an increase of over 24
20:10
since pre-pandemics since the beginning
20:13
of 2020
20:14
it is remarkable how much more expensive
20:17
houses have become and because of that
20:19
it's pushing that large decision that a
20:22
lot of us will make in our lives out
20:24
into the decade of the 30s right there
20:26
in the square in the middle of the messy
20:28
middle yeah i'm going to tr i'm biting
20:31
my tongue because this is one of those
20:32
things between the student loan crisis
20:35
as well as now the home prices for
20:37
first-time homebuyers we've got a
20:39
problem that's why um
20:41
yeah i'll bite my tongue because we're
20:42
not a political show but we definitely
20:45
we need more younger people in
20:47
government are involved with it i think
20:49
the time for the 80 year olds that are
20:51
running um all policies we ought to re
20:54
really rethink it because i don't think
20:55
that's a bullet because it's both sides
20:57
but it is definitely
20:58
we have an issue here that we need to
21:01
make sure and but hang out there we're
21:03
it's going we're going to get through
21:04
this and i still am very optimistic in
21:07
the long term that there will be
21:09
opportunities that come and so i think a
21:10
lot of people out there saying hey well
21:11
i can't control this housing thing this
21:13
is something that's happening against my
21:15
will i can't fight it
21:17
that very well may be true now however
21:19
there's another consumption decision
21:21
that we see a lot of people making and
21:23
this one very much is inside of most of
21:25
our controls and that's how we purchase
21:27
automobiles right now that we know when
21:29
it comes to buying a car the average
21:32
auto loan term for a car is 72 months i
21:35
know most people don't even keep their
21:37
cars for that long but they're having
21:38
loans for 72 months and one in three
21:40
folks right now who trade in their
21:42
vehicle
21:43
they're actually underwater on their
21:46
loans so they are trading in negative
21:49
equity you will never build wealth that
21:51
way you will never reach financial
21:53
independence if you just keep rolling it
21:56
in so i think in your 30s when you
21:57
actually have the money to be able to
21:59
qualify for these loans and you can get
22:01
into luxury cars you have to really
22:03
check yourself and say man am i doing
22:05
the things i'm supposed to be doing and
22:07
am i doing them in the right order or am
22:09
i getting things out of the way i mean
22:10
remember i said moneyguy.com
22:12
resources we have the free deliverable
22:15
of the nine steps of the financial order
22:17
of operations guys
22:19
the fancy cars that stuff doesn't happen
22:21
until you're on steps eight and nine i
22:24
mean there is nothing wrong if you you
22:26
realize 23 8 is what we talk about all
22:29
the time meaning that you're putting
22:30
down at least 20 percent and realize
22:33
this formula is grace field so that you
22:35
have a reliable car that will get you to
22:37
work because
22:39
working and building wealth by automated
22:41
investing is what's going to happen so
22:42
20 down
22:44
three years no more than three years on
22:47
the financing and no more than eight
22:49
percent of your gross income and we're
22:51
talking about
22:53
non-luxury brands if you want to get
22:55
into luxury type stuff it's got to be
22:56
same as cash i want you essentially
22:58
paying it off in the next few months
23:01
after you buy it and also do not fall in
23:04
the trap that your car payment is higher
23:07
than what your monthly investment is
23:09
because you are way backwards if you're
23:12
doing what both said you're doing 500 a
23:14
month to load up that roth ira and then
23:16
you have a 750 car payment no no no
23:20
that's not the order we want things we
23:21
want a 250 to 400 car payment and we
23:25
want 1200 a month going in that
23:27
investment let's get this thing let's
23:29
blow it out so that you do get that
23:31
great big beautiful tomorrow just
23:33
remember even in your 30s your dollars
23:35
are so powerful so don't miss out on
23:37
that don't squander that here's another
23:39
thing brian that i think we see all the
23:41
time in your third is you should
23:43
probably start answering this question
23:45
and you should know the answer this
23:46
question is what i'm doing right now a
23:48
job
23:49
or am i actually in my career is the
23:52
thing that i'm doing now something
23:54
that's building for when i get into my
23:56
late 30s 40s 50s or is this just a clock
23:59
in clock out and i'll find something
24:01
next year
24:02
the answer to that question matters and
24:04
can have a big impact on your overall
24:06
financial life yeah we even know i mean
24:08
we there's some data to this we love
24:10
throwing some data and and i even i
24:12
questioned daniel on this because he he
24:13
found 19
24:15
of americans are unhappy with their job
24:17
but i was like well wait a minute i need
24:18
to i need more information than just
24:20
telling me 19 because when i see that
24:23
dad i'm like 81
24:25
are happy that seems really high and it
24:27
is sad this pandemic i'm curious to see
24:29
what happens post pandemic with with
24:32
this research because a lot of our data
24:34
closed out in 2019 you know pre-pandemic
24:38
but we were on a positive trajectory
24:40
with career satisfaction because in
24:42
america we had gone from 41 to 55 of
24:46
americans were saying they were
24:48
satisfied with their job and and
24:51
somewhat on the happy spectrum that's a
24:54
positive thing i'm curious to see what
24:56
happened through the pandemic but um i
24:58
hope i'm an optimist that hopefully
25:00
things uh get back to a positive
25:02
trajectory on that would you agree with
25:04
this statement brian uh the 30s might be
25:06
the last stop where making a transition
25:09
making a shift is easy right like as you
25:12
get into your 40s and as life changes
25:14
and you have kids and you have older
25:15
kids you have more commitments if you're
25:17
stuck in a job that you just can't stand
25:19
and you're biting your fingernails on so
25:22
it gets a lot harder to do that the
25:25
longer you wait so in your 30s it really
25:27
might be value to a self-assessment
25:29
saying am i doing what i want to be
25:32
doing long-term now that doesn't mean
25:33
that you like love every absolute thing
25:35
about your job and you're it's just you
25:37
know you're skipping to work every day
25:39
but it is a realistic assessment of okay
25:41
this is something i want to commit to
25:43
for the next
25:44
10 15 20 years definitely focus on this
25:47
in your 30s because just naturally the
25:49
system um starts even though i know it's
25:51
illegal i mean having a being the the
25:54
child of a father that was displaced in
25:56
his mid-40s
25:59
it's tough you know it is tough when the
26:01
system closes out on you and says hey
26:03
we're going to you know
26:05
downsize or we're getting out of this
26:07
industry you go find something else to
26:09
do
26:10
you need to get yourself in that career
26:12
in your 30s so that you don't get that
26:15
that wake-up call in your 40s that could
26:17
really put you in some shaky financial
26:19
ground
26:20
and like i said i think it turned me
26:22
into who i am but it was definitely a
26:25
struggle growing up in a household where
26:27
essentially the carpet was ripped out
26:29
from underneath us all right let's talk
26:30
about uh risk management in our 30s um
26:35
likely at this age and stage you're
26:38
starting to have other human beings that
26:40
depend on you perhaps that's a spouse
26:42
perhaps that's kids perhaps that's aging
26:44
parents
26:45
you start to feel some pressure that man
26:47
if something happens to me
26:50
there are other folks that will be
26:52
affected by this if i get hit by that
26:55
bus and it takes me out that's gonna be
26:57
a problem for my family if i get
26:58
disabled and i can't go to work anymore
27:01
that's gonna be a problem so you need to
27:03
make sure that if there are folks
27:04
depending on you if your
27:07
livelihood affects the livelihood of
27:10
others you need to make sure that you
27:12
ensure against those types of risk the
27:14
two easiest ways to do that are life
27:16
insurance we love low cost term life
27:19
insurance and disability insurance which
27:21
we often see underinsured which is
27:23
actually a much higher probability thing
27:24
of happening than premature death
27:26
remember we said term life insurance so
27:28
if you if you got like
27:30
kids that you know or here you're
27:32
looking at typically the term when you
27:34
think you can self-insure afterwards so
27:36
that might be 20 years for for the kids
27:39
you know or 25 years even 30 years but
27:42
we're talking about term life insurance
27:44
not the permanent expense of whole life
27:47
that's a different purpose on that type
27:49
of stuff this is exactly what beau said
27:51
we want to make sure that if you're in
27:53
debt or you have to still haven't fully
27:55
funded all your retirement savings so
27:57
that your spouse or significant other
27:59
would be in a tough situation where the
28:01
kids are gonna be in a tough situation
28:03
it's too cheap too affordable to afford
28:06
to to just ensure that just make sure
28:08
you do that step because you might be
28:10
shocked it's a few hundred bucks a year
28:13
to to really make this this risk go away
28:16
all right and so we talked about in your
28:17
20s that you should be building towards
28:20
step four of the financial order of
28:22
operation you should be building your
28:23
emergency fund in your 30s that becomes
28:26
a non-negotiable you need to have
28:29
depending on what the right number for
28:30
you is three months or six months your
28:32
fully funded emergency fund again
28:34
because people are now depending on you
28:36
if something goes wrong it affects other
28:39
people so it becomes a non-negotiable at
28:41
this stage of your financial life yeah
28:43
when we do the financial order of
28:44
operations remember moneyguy.com
28:46
resources you too can download it step
28:49
one deductibles covered that's just so
28:51
you don't let um just something out of
28:53
the blue
28:54
side rail your entire financial life
28:57
when you get to step four of the
28:58
financial order of operations which is
29:00
the true emergency reserves
29:02
guys we're counting on in your in your
29:04
30s that you kind of are trying to build
29:07
yourself that stable foundation for your
29:10
family
29:11
this is the point to make sure exactly
29:13
what beau said three to six months
29:15
depending upon how many working people
29:17
are in the household also how easy it is
29:20
for you to get a new job pay attention
29:22
to those factors and then here's the
29:24
last one this is just often over
29:26
overlooked umbrella insurance it is a
29:28
very low cost insurance that sits over
29:30
the rest of your financial life that
29:32
will protect you if you have assets or
29:34
if you have income or if you have income
29:36
potential umbrella insurance is
29:38
something that makes so much sense in so
29:40
many circumstances and yet time after
29:42
time we see folks who don't have it if
29:44
you're curious just call your property
29:46
and casually insurance agent tell them
29:48
you want about your net worth of
29:51
umbrella insurance rounded to the
29:52
nearest million most often so 1 million
29:54
2 million 3 million whatever the number
29:56
is and see how much it is you'll be
29:58
amazed it is very low cost affordable
30:00
insurance that you should likely have in
30:02
place let's talk about investing this is
30:04
the stuff that rubber meets the road on
30:06
actually building the wealth we want you
30:08
at 25
30:09
of your gross income we also you're
30:11
asking yourself probably in your 30s
30:13
since you are having kids you're like
30:15
when do we actually start saving for
30:17
college for the kiddos um i i think this
30:19
is a step eight moment meaning that this
30:21
is going to come after hyper
30:23
accumulation so after you've reached 25
30:26
of your gross income going to that great
30:28
big beautiful tomorrow
30:30
that's when you can start thinking about
30:32
the kids and then another thing that
30:33
likely happens in your 30s depending on
30:35
kind of where you are in your financial
30:37
life cycles you might actually graduate
30:39
past target retirement index funds you
30:41
know that we say all the time for those
30:43
in your 20s or those starting out we
30:45
love the automated nature of target
30:47
retirement index funds but when your
30:48
portfolio does hit that critical mass
30:51
400 500 600 000
30:54
it's likely that you could benefit from
30:56
a more specialized asset allocation how
30:59
you spread out your assets and an asset
31:01
location where you put your assets so in
31:04
your 30s if you do start to approach
31:06
those critical masses it's a time to
31:08
start having those conversations and
31:09
thinking through okay do i need to move
31:11
from general investment advice to very
31:13
specialized from my circumstance
31:16
investment advice and don't forget the
31:17
savings rate i mean you've i've said it
31:19
25 but savings rate and using index
31:23
target retirement funds while you're
31:24
building up to that critical mass that
31:26
beau just talked about is still going to
31:28
be the most important behavior and
31:30
factor that will lead to an indicator of
31:32
how successful you'll be all right brian
31:34
let's talk about tax planning uh often
31:36
times when we start out we're young we
31:38
hear roth roth roth roth roth the author
31:41
author all throughout the roth and
31:42
that's true because tax-free growth is
31:44
awesome however there are times when
31:47
pre-tax makes sense it makes sense to go
31:49
to the traditional side of your 401k if
31:51
you're in a higher income level in your
31:54
30s this often happens don't forget to
31:56
assess this every year maybe at open
31:58
enrollment or whenever think through
32:00
should i still be doing those roth
32:01
contributions or
32:03
might i benefit from going to pre-tax
32:05
contributions for the current year tax
32:06
savings i also think this is a point
32:08
where because look you're messy middle
32:10
you are having some career success you
32:13
got the kids in the house you know
32:15
you're trying you also you're reaching
32:17
probably that critical mass point over
32:20
500 600 000 of investable assets
32:23
nothing wrong with trying to bring in
32:25
outside help with you know financial
32:27
advisor somebody to help you protect
32:29
yourself from those blind spots or
32:31
maximize your potential
32:34
don't be scared to do that i think
32:35
that's a great planning opportunity all
32:37
right now on the estate planning front
32:40
if you have children you need a will i'm
32:43
going to say that again because it's
32:44
that important if you have children you
32:46
need a will one of the things we always
32:48
ask prospects is hey if something were
32:50
to happen to you guys who who would take
32:52
care of the kids and normally the spouse
32:53
just kind of do this number if you're if
32:55
you're living a lifetime you can't see
32:56
me but they kind of look at each other
32:57
and they're like well my brother no your
32:59
sister know what if it's difficult for
33:02
you to make the decision about what
33:04
happens to your kids
33:06
while you're here imagine how much more
33:08
difficult that will be if you are not
33:10
here that's why the estate documents
33:12
make so much sense you just have to have
33:14
them in place don't put it on the back
33:16
burner get it done so that you can speak
33:18
for yourself if you're not here to speak
33:21
for yourself and before you meet with
33:22
that attorney
33:24
go ahead because i do think this is
33:25
graduating beyond the bowler plate and
33:28
graduating beyond um even the the back
33:30
of the napkin as you call it bo
33:33
you need to know who do you want to be
33:35
the executor of your estate go ahead and
33:36
have these conversations the
33:38
guardianship for your children and then
33:40
any trustees that you're going to have
33:42
from those testamentary trusts that will
33:44
be built into your estate document go
33:46
ahead and have those conversations go
33:47
ahead and know who you want to talk
33:49
about with the attorney so that you can
33:52
go ahead and do your homework because
33:53
every bit of research is going to save
33:54
you money in preparation of those
33:56
expenses and then as family
33:58
circumstances change don't forget to
33:59
update beneficiaries again if you have a
34:02
new child born you want to update that
34:04
if someone in your life passes away you
34:05
want to update that make sure at least
34:07
every couple of years you're checking
34:09
the beneficiaries across all of your
34:10
accounts not just your iras housing
34:12
custodian but also your 401ks your life
34:15
insurance so on and so forth to make
34:17
sure
34:18
that what you want to happen is indeed
34:20
what's set up to happen uh when you pass
34:22
away um i want to transition into our
34:25
40s bro okay
34:27
we called this top of the mountain top
34:28
of the mountain that's i i think we're
34:30
positive
34:31
i think i think you guys got a hold of
34:33
this because i i talked about that it
34:35
could be um
34:36
you know top of the mountain is assuming
34:38
you've done it right positive
34:41
it could be bitter train opportunity
34:42
moment too because you we do hear
34:44
there's a lot of mid-life crisis
34:46
that occur in the 40s and and i want to
34:48
talk to that is that i think that if
34:50
you're on the positive side i know for
34:52
myself
34:53
um
34:54
if you've done it right you're more
34:55
sentimental in your 40s because you've
34:57
lived long enough now you can kind of
34:59
look back with that that fondness of
35:01
some of the things you did the journeys
35:03
you've had the experiences
35:05
um and it brings a a you know makes you
35:08
feel warm and fuzzy
35:10
it makes the the or you know hair on
35:11
your arm stand up but if you've done it
35:13
wrong
35:14
instead of it being kind of a
35:16
sentimental thing it could be kind of a
35:18
bitter moment where you're like oh man i
35:20
missed out on some really key
35:21
opportunities maybe i should have
35:23
started saving earlier maybe i should
35:25
have created more memories and enjoyed
35:27
my 30s a little bit more those type of
35:30
things build up i want to make sure
35:32
because this is the moment your 40s
35:34
you're still young i mean it look as
35:36
much as beau picks on me
35:38
40 year olds people in their 40s that
35:41
decade you are still very active you can
35:43
still do a lot of things but it is one
35:46
of those things if you're not on the
35:47
track of planning or really putting
35:49
thought towards this instead of having
35:51
10 000 ways to succeed your path gets
35:54
tightened up you better really be doing
35:56
that measure twice cut once moment to
35:59
make sure you are on the path of
36:00
abundance and creating success did you
36:02
just come up with i love that like when
36:04
you're in your 20s you have 10 000 past
36:06
the success when you get to your 40s
36:08
it's probably not 10 000 anymore yeah so
36:10
you've got it because that's what i love
36:11
there's so much grace and opportunity
36:13
and flexibility for money but it does
36:16
tighten up so you've got to get more and
36:18
more serious because it it's just it
36:21
starts narrowing down and you better be
36:23
on the right side of it all right so
36:24
let's check out our financial planning
36:27
pyramid so first if we start the
36:28
baseline cash flow
36:30
you said something so interesting brian
36:33
your 40s was the first decade that you
36:35
did not feel broke yeah i even i even
36:38
put a number on it i think it was
36:39
between 41 and 42 years of age i
36:41
actually felt like i had money sure um
36:43
and i think i i tell people that that's
36:45
not a brag because i'm hoping that it's
36:47
actually a liberator because i want
36:49
everybody who's doing things right if
36:51
you're in your 20s if you're in your 30s
36:53
even late 30s to early 40s you might be
36:56
like when do i actually get to enjoy and
36:59
feel like this is not you know working
37:01
against me or i'm swimming upstream i do
37:03
think this is this is about the period
37:05
that happens because you're having some
37:06
success in your career
37:08
you've been doing automated investing
37:10
all the good habits you're getting the
37:12
fruits of this you've now also had 20
37:15
plus years of compounding growth there's
37:17
it's not it's no um you know
37:21
mistake or just tripping over it that
37:24
most millionaires actually reach it
37:25
around the 47 to 49 years of age because
37:28
they've had over 25 years of compounding
37:30
growth working for them at that point
37:32
love it so one of the things that you
37:33
can do in your 40s to help yourself is
37:36
to know your why and you may be thinking
37:38
why are you all putting this in cash
37:39
flow that doesn't seem like a cash flow
37:40
thing it very much is in your 40s you
37:43
start recognizing man my kids are
37:45
getting older i want to be creating
37:46
memories i want to be doing these types
37:48
of things with them maybe i don't want
37:50
to be working 90 hours a week anymore
37:53
maybe i'm not trying to get that next
37:54
promotion maybe i'm not hard charging to
37:57
try to do whatever the fill in the blank
37:59
is i know that this is the level of
38:02
success i want to achieve and i'm going
38:04
to be comfortable living in that place
38:06
and enjoying the here and now or i know
38:08
that i need to work a little bit harder
38:09
to get to whatever x is whatever y is
38:12
stop moving the goal post so often we
38:15
see people say man if i could just get
38:16
to this income then well then you get
38:19
not just this one and then this one and
38:20
then this one this one i talk about quit
38:22
moving the goal posts because it is one
38:24
of those things i mean if you've got the
38:25
kids are getting a little bit older
38:27
i'm always amazed that people they get
38:29
in their 40s they start having financial
38:31
success big incomes and then they go buy
38:34
the 5500 6 000 square foot house when
38:38
the kids are going to college in two
38:39
years you know and it's one of those
38:41
things where you quit moving the goal
38:43
post just because you can doesn't mean
38:44
you should i'd rather you focus on the
38:48
how you're going to spend your time what
38:50
are your hobbies what makes you happy
38:52
those are the things that you really
38:54
need to be spending time on not how you
38:56
can make yourself look cooler and expand
38:58
the lifestyle because i feel like that
39:00
is something that happens quit changing
39:02
the rules on yourself because if you
39:04
keep pushing things bigger and bigger
39:06
and bigger you're chasing happiness
39:08
that's not what's going to create the
39:10
happiness the happiness is going to come
39:12
from the activities the memories the
39:14
experiences so you need to put some
39:16
effort into what is the happiness factor
39:18
because it's not the stuff another thing
39:20
that i see that is kind of exciting from
39:22
a cash flow perspective in your 40s is
39:25
you can start getting a little advanced
39:26
and how you approach your cash flow
39:28
maybe you're someone who's terribly
39:29
minded and you've always given money to
39:31
a specific charity or given money to
39:33
your church and you're recognizing your
39:34
40. maybe there's a better way for me to
39:36
do this maybe i could do something like
39:38
use a charitable gift fund and i can
39:40
donate appreciated securities and with
39:42
what i was giving i can replenish my
39:44
taxable account it's just a more
39:46
efficient way to approach how you've
39:49
already been doing the things you've
39:50
been doing for the last
39:52
5 10 15 20 years just at this stage you
39:55
can probably uh take it up a notch you
39:57
can probably optimize you can level up
39:59
plus up do it slightly better slightly
40:01
more efficiently um risk management wise
40:04
i have two two things here and one's
40:06
kind of counter um i i want you to to
40:09
make sure you're exercising i mean
40:10
because this is one of those things
40:11
where i i do think
40:13
that if you if you're not using it you
40:15
do start to lose it if you get injured
40:17
it takes longer to to heal so so make
40:20
sure you're focusing on exercising what
40:23
you eat because this is that stage you
40:25
know i think we get away with a lot in
40:27
our 20s and 30s the 40s you need to be
40:29
much more deliberate about it and this
40:31
is also going to lead to you to to
40:33
thinking about
40:34
where are we at from a from a risk
40:36
standpoint of my life insurance because
40:39
the great news about your 40s is is that
40:41
two actuaries and the people measuring
40:44
risk you're still very healthy you're
40:46
young so you can go buy that new you can
40:49
reset that term life insurance for the
40:51
kids or whatever else i had a client
40:53
meeting yesterday and it was so cool
40:55
because we had re-shopped their
40:57
insurance right as they were that 39 to
40:59
40 years of age and now their kids are
41:01
getting close to graduating from from
41:03
high school going to college
41:06
because we're a few years in the future
41:08
and like we know we have plenty of life
41:10
insurance because while rates were low
41:12
we reset that term policy pay attention
41:15
to that stuff because it is still one of
41:17
those low-cost moments where you can
41:19
reassess your you know what you need
41:21
from life insurance disability and those
41:23
type of things of of protection i love i
41:25
love how just the word reassess because
41:27
that same exact thing happens when it
41:29
comes to
41:30
investing and 40s might be the type
41:33
where you need to hyper save if you're
41:35
behind because in your 40s
41:37
you need to know your number when you're
41:40
in your 20s and 30s it's okay to shoot
41:42
for a savings rate i want to be saving
41:43
20 25 i want to be saving we want to be
41:45
saved we want to be saving in your 40s
41:47
you want to be able to start refining
41:48
that goal what is my number what am i
41:51
trying to get to and am i on track to
41:53
get that in my head am i behind and if i
41:56
am behind what do i need to do to start
41:59
catching up you should be able to start
42:01
answering that question
42:03
when you get into your 40s decade this
42:04
is also you get to do some fun stuff
42:06
with your portfolios too because this is
42:08
where asset location you probably are
42:10
getting beyond the the index target
42:12
retirement funds where you can focus on
42:15
where exactly am i putting my money
42:18
um you can also expand your asset
42:20
allocation you know because those
42:22
targets those target retirement funds
42:24
they're great in the fact that they make
42:25
a lot of your decisions easy for you but
42:28
they are missing out on things like real
42:30
estate and other asset classes that
42:32
definitely probably have a place in your
42:34
overall asset allocation this is the
42:36
time to really focus on that and then
42:38
here's what you don't want to focus on
42:40
here for this don't outsmart yourself
42:42
don't think that just because what i did
42:43
in my 20s and my 30s got me here all of
42:46
a sudden have to figure out something
42:47
more complicated or more complex no you
42:50
can do the same things it's just with
42:52
bigger numbers and you can do it
42:53
slightly more efficiently you have more
42:55
tools in your tool belt but don't
42:57
outsmart yourself don't think you have
42:58
to start getting into private deals or
43:00
taking on leverage or doing crazy things
43:03
to continue doing what you've already
43:04
been doing for the last two decades i
43:06
think it shocks people when they find
43:08
out still the majority of my assets
43:10
index
43:11
funds about
43:12
investing assets they're still in index
43:14
funds they're not in these private deals
43:16
they locked me up for 12 years
43:19
you know is just pay attention there's
43:20
nothing wrong with being an index
43:23
investor
43:24
you just go probably a little more
43:26
sophisticated with how you structure
43:28
that in your portfolio all right now
43:30
when you get to tax planning uh this is
43:32
interesting because when you're in your
43:32
40s you've likely been doing your taxes
43:34
for almost 20 years now and you said
43:36
yeah i've gone 20 years i've never been
43:37
audited no one's ever come and talked to
43:39
me does this whole tax thing really
43:41
matter maybe i can start being a little
43:43
more gray maybe i can be a little more
43:45
aggressive maybe i can start thinking
43:47
through
43:48
buying things and writing them off and
43:51
doing this and
43:52
i would caution you and you say this
43:54
best brian don't mess with the irs yeah
43:56
i mean i'm amazed when i watch you know
43:59
because you guys have me paying you know
44:01
dabbling into instagram and tick tock
44:04
and other things like that and some of
44:05
the advice i see
44:06
on just structure an llc and then start
44:09
running everything through it and it's
44:10
all deductible i'm like yeah it's all
44:12
deductible until you get caught
44:14
and then um then you're gonna quickly
44:15
realize hey the only group if you don't
44:18
pay your power bill they just cut your
44:20
lights off if you don't pay your taxes
44:22
they come and they take your stuff and
44:24
more than likely a few of the people
44:25
that come to take your stuff might have
44:26
a gun strapped to them because this is
44:29
the law this is the government they have
44:31
abilities and and features of
44:34
enforcement that you and i can't do
44:36
remember al capone was a mobster but he
44:40
went to jail for tax evasion so it's
44:42
just something to pay attention to don't
44:44
screw with the irs because i have seen
44:47
my background in public accounting
44:49
working in tax preparation for close to
44:51
two decades i have physically witnessed
44:54
grown men in their 40s crying because
44:58
they they went and represented
45:00
themselves before the irs the irs asked
45:02
them all kind of things there's just
45:04
mistakes that you don't want to put
45:05
yourself on that gray zone um to where
45:08
it derails your entire financial life so
45:10
then another thing that you can do as it
45:12
relates to tax planning is a little bit
45:14
goes a long way in your 40s if you start
45:17
thinking about tax planning from a
45:19
different perspective and less about
45:21
okay how much tax am i just saving this
45:23
year but how much tax can i save over my
45:26
entire financial life you'll be amazed
45:28
at how impactful that could be likely in
45:29
your 40s you're getting into the hyper
45:32
accumulation step seven of the financial
45:34
order of operations you can go check
45:36
that out at learn.moneyguy.com if you
45:38
want to know more about that
45:40
you are likely starting to think about
45:41
these different tax buckets maybe i
45:43
don't just need to focus on my asset
45:45
allocation how i spread my assets i
45:47
ought to also look at my asset location
45:49
what types of assets i'm holding in
45:52
which types of bucket because all of
45:54
those buckets are treated differently
45:56
from a tax perspective tax deferred
45:58
assets grow without paying any income
46:00
tax now you pay it when you pull the
46:02
money out so in those types of accounts
46:04
you want to hold investments to generate
46:06
ordinary income these are your bonds
46:07
your fixed income your more conservative
46:09
investments tax-free roth hsa assets are
46:13
likely going to grow tax-free if you use
46:16
them for qualified expenses in the
46:17
future that's where you want to hold
46:19
your high-flying growth assets the
46:21
things that you think have the highest
46:23
capital appreciation potential you want
46:25
to put those in your hsas and in your
46:27
roth accounts so that they grow and then
46:29
after tax this is your third bucket this
46:31
is that hyper accumulation bucket these
46:33
are assets with more favorable tax
46:35
treatment they have capital gain
46:36
opportunities or perhaps they have
46:38
qualified dividend distributions if you
46:40
can think about structuring your
46:42
portfolio to hold different types of
46:44
assets and different types of buckets
46:47
over the life of your portfolio you'll
46:50
be amazed at what a tax difference it
46:52
can make this is also bo because i love
46:54
the talking about the three buckets and
46:56
making sure you're maximizing the tax
46:58
location it is also you need to pay
47:00
attention to what marginal tax rate
47:02
you're in and so forth because this is
47:04
where you still are having that
47:05
discussion of figuring out am i pre-tax
47:08
traditional where i am taking that tax
47:10
deduction now or am i going to focus on
47:12
that tax-free roth that's in my employer
47:15
plan it really has a lot to do with
47:17
where your tax rates are and what your
47:19
long-term goals are pay attention to
47:21
that stuff all right now from an estate
47:22
planning standpoint in your 40s there's
47:24
a chance that your children are getting
47:26
older we see this all the time that
47:28
someone had their first baby or first
47:29
couple of babies and they wouldn't got
47:31
the estate plan done and it says you
47:32
know something happens to us this person
47:35
wants to you know going to take care of
47:36
the kids that's great when your kids
47:38
start getting to like 14 15 16 and your
47:41
financial empire's built up now you have
47:44
to start thinking about man if something
47:45
happened to us would my child at age 18
47:48
or age 21 or whatever
47:50
be okay inheriting hundreds of thousands
47:53
or maybe millions of dollars so there's
47:54
a chance your estate plan needs to be
47:57
updated based on the changing
47:59
circumstances of your financial life
48:01
don't just assume the one that you put
48:03
in place 10 years ago is still the one
48:05
that makes the most sense today yeah
48:08
that's great beau
48:09
um let's transition into 50 year olds
48:11
all right you know i resemble too much
48:14
of the 40s but i've got to be
48:15
transitioning to celebrate to get into
48:17
this point and it is
48:19
we titled this celebration or panic
48:22
because it is one of those things where
48:23
i want you to kind of vision plan and
48:24
think about what you expect
48:27
your retirement to be and this is not
48:29
daydreaming anymore this is but you
48:31
better be fine-tuning the plan i mean
48:33
this is this is beyond the daydreaming
48:35
because we're going to be talking about
48:37
hey are you taking on too much risk you
48:40
know to get the growth maybe you do need
48:41
to be having that decision to know what
48:43
does the asset allocation look like it
48:46
is also this is the decade i want you to
48:48
start feeling like you can and should be
48:51
debt-free
48:53
i want mortgages paid off i don't want
48:55
any credit card debt because truthfully
48:57
you should not have that even in your
48:58
20s and 30s but there shouldn't be
49:00
student loans there shouldn't be
49:02
mortgage yet you should have debt
49:03
freedom and also i don't want you
49:05
waiting until your 60s to build memories
49:08
i mean i'm always amazed at how many
49:11
people have this it's like they're
49:13
putting on the fridge a picture of
49:15
themselves when they're 65 don't wait
49:17
until then you need to be building
49:19
memories through all decades of your
49:20
life
49:21
make sure you're using that moment to
49:23
celebrate your successes hey look this
49:24
is likely going to be that time where
49:26
perhaps you want to make sure that you
49:28
have surgically planned for what
49:30
retirement's gonna look like this is a
49:32
great time to think about
49:33
hiring a professional taking the
49:35
relation to the next level getting
49:37
someone to come alongside you to help
49:39
refine that plan because some of the
49:41
stuff gets a little nuanced as you get
49:43
into your 50s so from a cash flow
49:45
perspective this is one thing that we
49:46
see so so so often is that your kids are
49:49
likely adults are almost adults have you
49:52
begun thinking through
49:54
are my little chickadees ready to
49:57
actually fly out of the nest am i going
49:59
to be able to get my kids
50:01
off of economic outpatient care or are
50:04
they still going to be a budgetary item
50:05
for me even well into adulthood yeah i
50:08
mean we see this trend i mean this was
50:10
one of the things listed in the
50:11
millionaire next door is an indicator of
50:13
success of becoming a millionaire you do
50:16
want your children that's why i would
50:17
focus on hey we we talked to a lot of
50:19
college kids when we were in athens a
50:21
few weeks back
50:23
help guide your children into good
50:26
majors so they don't have tons of
50:28
student loan debt and if they do they
50:29
can pay it off because they have good
50:31
careers coming their way try to get your
50:33
children to be independent it is so
50:35
important and i do want to focus on
50:38
because we want you to be debt free
50:41
get out of all debts at this point fully
50:43
own your life it is hard to say you're
50:46
financially independent when you have a
50:48
ton of encumbrances hanging out there
50:50
with debt you want to be completely debt
50:52
free from a risk management standpoint
50:55
there's a chance that in your 50s this
50:57
is likely where you want to start
50:58
looking at long-term care when you think
50:59
about your genealogy is it likely that
51:02
there will be some sort of end-of-life
51:04
care for you if that's the case then
51:06
long-term care is probably a good time
51:08
to start in your 50s is probably a good
51:10
time to start looking at that because
51:12
it's not going to be so cost prohibitive
51:14
in terms of waiting too late but you're
51:16
also not going to pay for it for 30
51:18
years likely before you need it so if
51:20
you're someone in that donut hole 50s is
51:23
probably where you want to start
51:24
thinking through that life insurance i
51:26
think this is one of those things where
51:27
you might be it's definitely worth
51:29
measuring you might be getting close to
51:31
self-insurance because i mean if you got
51:33
the kids out of the house they're out of
51:34
college they're in their own careers
51:36
you've got enough pot of money saved up
51:39
to where you're
51:40
fully financially independent you can
51:42
start looking at some of those term life
51:44
insurance policies to see if you're
51:45
truly own self and you know self insured
51:48
by the way even if you are don't just
51:50
throw away those term policies because a
51:52
lot of them realize you paid
51:54
premiums for years where you're probably
51:56
getting the cost of that insurance is
51:57
much higher than what the actual annual
51:59
premium is
52:01
look at that you might not want to just
52:03
throw them away you might want to go
52:04
ahead and let them finish out their term
52:06
before you just don't re-up and get more
52:09
life insurance but it is definitely
52:10
something where you should measure twice
52:12
cut once on determining how are you from
52:14
a risk management standpoint when it
52:16
comes to investing in your 50s your
52:19
retirement runway should really be
52:22
starting to take shape and not so much
52:23
that remember in your 20s and 30s you
52:25
were focused on your savings rate in
52:27
your 40s you needed to know your number
52:30
in your 50s is where you want to start
52:32
stress testing will this plan actually
52:34
work we've shown this to you before but
52:36
one of the ways we like to do this is
52:38
through a monte carlo analysis where we
52:39
have a number of different variables
52:41
saying what do we think our probability
52:43
success is if we retire this year if we
52:46
wait to take our pension until this year
52:47
if we start drawing some social security
52:49
here you want to make sure that you have
52:51
stress tested your plan early enough
52:54
that you give yourself some time to make
52:56
adjustments as needed if you need to
52:58
make adjustments so in your 50s this is
53:01
where you really want to start thinking
53:02
through do i have the right portfolio
53:05
and plan in place to provide for that
53:08
great big beautiful tomorrow that i've
53:10
been looking for waiting for um i think
53:12
this is this is a a take that i think a
53:15
lot of people would be like why is this
53:16
under investing
53:18
um i want you to not because we talk
53:20
about the financial stuff but you also
53:21
need to be figuring out and thinking
53:23
about what does your life look like from
53:25
an interest and hobbies
53:28
post work life because you know we've
53:31
done some interviews on what do happy
53:32
retirees look like they have a life
53:35
outside of work i think that that is so
53:37
you do need to make sure you know focus
53:39
on planning what hobbies what interests
53:41
you will have post retirement so that
53:44
you can go ahead and start investing in
53:46
that to make sure you know what the you
53:48
know what that moment and what that
53:50
happiness factor is for you when you're
53:52
in your early
53:53
20s 30s and 40s
53:55
you really start thinking about your
53:57
risk tolerance how much risk can i
53:59
handle how much do i feel comfortable
54:00
with as you get into your 50s and on
54:03
then you have to start thinking about
54:04
risk capacity how much risk should i be
54:07
taking do i have enough time to be able
54:09
to recover before i need these dollars
54:11
so in your 50s you need to take a long
54:12
hard look at both your diversification
54:15
and your asset location where where are
54:18
my assets put and when i retire when i
54:20
reach financial admits where are my
54:22
dollars going to come from because those
54:23
decisions are likely going to have a
54:25
long-term impact on the viability of
54:28
your plan um bo i want to talk about a
54:30
little bit
54:31
uh the we talked about risk reward
54:34
making sure you're not taking too much
54:35
risk you know especially because if
54:37
you've won the game but i do think it's
54:39
it's one of those things tax planning
54:41
wise
54:42
this is a lot of people especially if
54:44
you're part of that fire movement
54:45
because i think anybody who's retiring
54:47
early
54:48
that's 50 somethings
54:50
they really this is a pre primo
54:53
opportunity to where required minimum
54:55
distribution start at 72.
54:57
your earned income has gone completely
54:59
away because you've retired
55:01
roth conversions in your 50s is an
55:04
incredible planning opportunity and then
55:06
you want to know about some key dates
55:08
because a lot of big things happen in
55:10
your 50s the first one at age 50 you
55:13
become eligible for catch-up
55:14
contributions both on the ira as well as
55:16
the 401k side the government lets you
55:18
save a little bit extra at age 55
55:22
if you are retired uh if you stopped
55:25
working and you were employed with your
55:27
employer in the year that you turned 55
55:28
you can actually begin drawing from 401k
55:30
it's a little bit earlier than the
55:32
normal pre-tax deadline of 59 and a half
55:35
so if you are somebody who's thinking
55:36
about retiring in your 54th year you may
55:39
just want to think through it because
55:41
waiting that extra few months or extra
55:43
year might give you that little bit
55:45
extra be able to access the dollars
55:47
earlier than you might be able to
55:48
otherwise yeah and then i did i think 59
55:51
and a half obviously
55:52
that's right ras you know it's one of
55:54
those things yes there's some complex
55:55
annuitizing accounts where you can get
55:57
to it even earlier but these are the key
56:00
dates 50 55 and 59 and a half to pay
56:03
attention to when we when we are
56:05
considering things from a tax planning
56:07
um estate planning wise you know it's
56:09
more likely you're going to have
56:11
full wills that were drafted by an
56:14
attorney
56:15
you will need to be also very aware of
56:17
how do revocable trusts that work
56:19
outside of you know your wills um how to
56:23
you know because that's a revocable
56:24
trust a living trust these things and
56:27
your asset titan will become titling
56:29
will become so important as you are in
56:32
this level of success that you better be
56:34
very deliberate in making sure your
56:36
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